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This is the best novel I ve read in my 45 years of life It is probably due to the fact that being Peruvian makes me feel deeply identified in it I see it as a huge painting about the mentality and feelings of people in Peru and why not of people in many other countries in Latin America and probably around the world since the search of absolute power inevitably leads to corruption everywhereThis is a huge painting and indeed the most memorable intent to reach a Total Novel that I witnessed In a parallel way that One hundred years of solitude portrays with enormous beauty that Caribbean sentiment through Macondo this masterpiece depicts ruthlessly its own reality without any magic in it even though some facts could appear incredible to many western eyes As time goes by this monument endures and even gets better in predicting human behavior and the proof is that the same facts just with different protagonists occurred again in Peru at the end of the 90 s with Fujimori and MontesinosThe style can be complicated but don t take it personal read it as you were enjoying your spare time be patient slowly make the pieces of this perfect and huge puzzle fit and you ll see how everything starts to make sense start to appreciate the whole panorama and to detect the profound implications of this simple bunch of papers that in the hands of one of the best gifted writers of this world turns in a timeless message of lifeSince that day in the middle 80 s when I read it for the first time my life changed irreversibly my juvenile and optimistic visions crashed the sad wall of reality but for good It can be seen as unnecessarily bleak and it is certainly sad but even though reading it can be similar to listen to a doctor tell you that you have just few months of life remaining you can obtain an invaluable gift of it It can help you to focus on what is really important You can also see it as a mediocrity eulogy when it implies decency that is finally what Santiago chooses for himself 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Conversación en La Catedral

A conversation is held in the Cathedral during the Manuel A Odrma dictatorship in Peru; over beers and a sea of freely spoken words the conversation de. Bumbling Towards HellNone of us is ever prepared for what is happening in our lives nor are the choices presented to us political personal spiritual ones that we formulate We move randomly provoked by half formed dreams and aspirations but it simply isn t possible to foresee the conseuences of each move So we react with even less reason than immediate desire to circumstances as they unfold We call the result a life or career or accomplishment but it is really only a series of unplanned revolutions in our experience our preferences our prejudices our politics and the way in which we harm other people Thus one of Vargas Llosa s main characters can say People change here never things The Peru of Vargas Llosa is perhaps exceptional in this regard It is a place of ingrained racial tension among the Spanish the Mountain Indians the Jungle Indians the Blacks the mixed race untouchables which insures that no politics can be stable Conseuently everyone is in revolt against his skin against his class against himself against Peru It is a place of domination by the Catholic Church through which personal advancement is controlled It is a place of profoundly respected and expected machismo in which women have no voice and are presumed to submit in everything from sex to financial dependence It is not therefore a happy place in which to seek one s future Everyone is disappointed especially those who achieve what they believed they wanted And revolution is or less a way of life personally as well as politicallyThe eponymous conversations take place in a bar a working man s dive in Lima called the Cathedral They tell the history of a group of boyhood friends and their families as well as that of Peru This is a history of haplessness and failed dreams about love about vocation about familial loyalty about doing the right thing largely because each dream interferes with the others Love confronts loyalty and leads to a politics of hate pursuing one s calling demands giving up whatever doing the right thing means Dreams become nothing than a residue of regret and fragmented sentimental memories As one character describes another You seem to have stopped living when you were eighteen years old The literary techniue of cutting abruptly from the personal conversation to the national history and freuently inter leaving up to four other conversations can be disconcerting initially but as it becomes familiar it serves to amplify the ironies of the situation to the point of desperate sarcasm The conflicts and incompatibilities of needs wants emotions become stark and obvious As do the various forms of complicity in coercion and torture in contemporary Peruvian society Otherwise relatively innocuous people are drawn into a web of systematic oppression of their compatriots The life choice seems limited to being either oppressed or oppressor A neutral position doesn t exist Doubts were fatal A young idealist says they paralyze you and you can t do anything Spending your life digging around would that be right torturing yourself would that be a lie instead of acting But acting even with good intentions means acting against others And in this country a person who doesn t fuck himself up fucks up other people Tyrants or reformers it doesn t matter all act the same with power Power isn t simply correlated with evil power is the evil which is everywhere and nowhere It transforms those who merely seek it into carriers of a morbid infectionUnsurprisingly nothing goes the way it should for anyone neither for those in charge nor those oppressed by those in charge No one is reliable even oneself everyone evolves into a parasite on their family friends associates and their own past A transcendent demonic presence seems to infect the entire country Indeed the people change but things never do This is normality in Vargas Llosa s Peru a profoundly hopeless normality about which nothing can be done Santiago the protagonist is obsessed by the mysterious force behind his and everyone else s failure All the doors open he thinks at what moment and why did they begin to close Ambrosio the black chauffeur of Santiago s family is a Horatio like interlocutor in conversation with Santiago as Hamlet They each reveal the facts that the other never knew about both their families roles in the country s continuing misery Santiago can only drop deeply into despair and spiritual ennui he is traumatized My whole life spent doing things without believing my whole life spent pretendingAnd my whole life spent wanting to believe in something And my whole life a lie I don t believe in anything APRA the Leftist Party is the solution religion is the solution Communism is the solution and believing it Then life would become organized all by itself and you wouldn t feel empty any Looking to fill a spiritual social and political flaw with anything at hand seemed the only strategy Echoes of Trump s America or Berlusconi s Italy or Erdogan s Turkey or Putin s Russia The political sensibilities of Vargas Llosa s Peru seem to have become a worldwide phenomenon Racism unarticulated class warfare the cooperation of religion in the service of power seem to be the coming norms It is difficult not to adopt Santiago s mood of despair Religious belief cannot create solidarity neither can global consumerism When did all the doors begin to close and why Can they ever be opened again

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At govern power and the people behind it Conversacisn en la Catedral is than a point of reference; it is a landmark in the history of present Literatur. If Mario Vargas Llosa had never written anything else Conversation in the Cathedral would by rights earn him the Nobel Prize for Literature It is a hefty novel 600 pages or so but it is worth spending the time readingThe novel is set during the dictatorship of Manuel Odria 1948 1956 The major characters are Santiago Zavala nicknamed Zavalita and Ambrosio Pardo The first is the eldest scion of a rich family that is well tied in with the dictator the second a black former chauffeur for Zavalita s father and also for the infamous Cayo Bermudez Odria s security chief Ostensibly the conversation of the title is between Zavalita and Ambrosio who have just met at the dog pound where the latter now works It takes place at bar called the CathedralFor the first third of the novel numerous conversations between several of the characters are interleaved conversations taking place at different times and in different places Then Vargas Llosa continues in a conventional vein picking up various threads of the story Every once in a while however threads of the conversation between Zavalita and Ambrosio appearThe cast of characters is extensive ranging from Cayo Bermudez down to chauffeurs maids whores party girls and various hoods employed by Bermudez Estranged from his wealthy family after a flirtation with communism as a student Zavalita breaks free and becomes a reporter for The Cronica a Lima daily newspaper where he gets involved with murders stories about lottery winners and other lowlife minutiae to the disgust of his family He gets married to a nurse who his mother claims is little better than a maidIn the end we see numerous stories of blighted ambitions and hopes arising from the heavy hand of President Odria and his enforcers all taking place over a period of approximately a decade If you read any one novel by Vargas Llosa this is the one to select Even if it is a big ass book


10 thoughts on “Conversación en La Catedral

  1. says:

    Bumbling Towards HellNone of us is ever prepared for what is happening in our lives; nor are the choices presented to us political personal spiritual ones that we formulate We move randomly provoked by half formed dreams and aspirations; but it simply isn’t possible to foresee the conseuences of each move So we react with even less reason than immediate desire to circumstances as they unfold We call the result a life o

  2. says:

    Mario Vargas Llosa's third book is a marvelously terrorising romp through Peru of the 50s and 60s and yet all to

  3. says:

    Conversación en La Catedral Conversation in the Cathedral Mario Vargas LlosaConversation in the Cathedral is a 1969 novel by Peruvian writer and essayist Mario Vargas Llosa translated by Gregory Rabassa One of Vargas Llosa's major works it is a portrayal of Peru under the dictatorship of Manuel A Odría in the 1950's and deals with the lives of characters from different social strata The ambitious narrative is built around the s

  4. says:

    Fantastic Fan tastic Conversation in the Cathedral was definitely a big work of art a real masterpiece It was the first book by Llosa that I read after a suggestion by my friend Moeen and I'm now eager to read some of his It was none of a magic realism but yet a pure South American way of story telling with so many stories happeningThe book starts when Santiago Zavala journalist meets with his rich father's former chauffeur Ambrosio and

  5. says:

    This is the best novel I’ve read in my 45 years of life It is probably due to the fact that being Peruvian makes me feel deeply identified in it I see it as a huge painting about the mentality and feelings of people in Peru and why not of people in many other countries in Latin America and probably around the world since the search of abso

  6. says:

    Conversation in the Cathedral is a story of decline and fall – deterioration of family ultimate ruination of hopes and pursuits“The voice the body are his but he looks thirty years older The same thin lips the same flat nose the same kinky hair But now in addition there are purple bags on his eyelids wrinkles on his neck a greenish yellow crust on his horse teeth He thinks they used to be so white What a

  7. says:

    I must admit that I got off to a rocky start with Mario Vargas Llosa's Conversation in the Cathedral after a dachshund is brutally clubbed to death in Chapter One and a woman gets drugged and sexually assaulted in Chapter Two by over sympathetic characters who don't ever seem uite to grasp the offensiveness of their actions I was feeling a mite unfriendly toward the novel By Chapter Three though I was reluctantly softeni

  8. says:

    If Mario Vargas Llosa had never written anything else Conversation in the Cathedral would by rights earn him the Nobel Prize for Literature It is a hefty novel 600 pages or so but it is worth spending the time readingThe novel is set during the dictatorship of Manuel Odria 1948 1956 The major characters are San

  9. says:

    This is a big well structured book that reflects the 1950's of Vargas Llosa's native Peru The title actually re

  10. says:

    My third book by Mario Vargas Llosa and the history lessons continue 1950's Peru is the focus when General Odria led a successful coup against Jose Bustamante installing his oppressive and ridiculously corrupt regimeTwo friends who've lost touch over the years encounter each other at a dog pound and decide to have a celebratory reunion drink The first chapter is the start and end of the conversation which lasts about 20 pages Ever

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