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    I didn't like this book as much as I hoped I would I wish biographical information was given about the people who were in

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    This was an absolutely amazing and eye opening book Basically the author a Jew intereviewed many now adult children of Nazi parents or in one case grandparents Each story is different each person showing different emotions toward their parents and the events Most of them were born after the war and never saw their parents

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    I read this book as an author looking for inspiration for a character who is the son of an official in an oppressive government I'm also a histo

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    A pr

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    To achieve the best torturing effect try reading it with psychoanalysis lenses on Someone should do a similar study like Children of Social Trauma along this line The conclusion could be pretty bitter and rob one of moral superiority every par

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    In this thin book carried a very heavy past First time I get to know how these next generation of Nazi officers we usually focus on war victims

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    Not very informative It's a rewriting of interviews in a first person point of view I'm sure a transcript would have been useful for people interested in the subject Especially since the only transcript of a phone interview printed in this book definitely shows how the author was hostile and aggressive in his way to address the person being interviewedI read this book after seeing a play by Hannah Moscovitch called 'East of Berlin' Most

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    A friend recommends this to me a couple of months ago but I didn't pick up this book until this morning It amazed me and it'

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    It is interesting reading about the anecdotes of children of Nazi facing the moral dilemma of having parents who possibly committed war crimes but I wish there’s a conclusive ending or at least some insight provided at the ending I

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    This was a depressing book The story is told thru the eyes of the children and grandchildren of Nazis The Nazi's did not talk about their experiences until uestioned by their offspring When uestioned the Nazis portrayed themselves as victims or knelt on the ground in a cowardly fashion or in other ways acted as cowards

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When this remarkable book was first published in Germany it created an immediate sensation and small wonder For in Born Guilty Peter Sichrovsky has confronted head on the issue of war guilt at the most personal level he has talked to the children and grandchildren of former Nazi war criminals in order to find out how they have dealt with this burden of inherited guiltWhat did t. I didn t like this book as much as I hoped I would I wish biographical information was given about the people who were interviewed and also just what their fathers had been up to during the Nazi era though I know the book wasn t supposed to be about the Nazi crimesAll of the people interviewed were born after the war and were the children of identified war criminals The children s reactions ranged from complete denial My father never did all those things they say he did it s all lies to making excuses It was just politics he had to follow orders to complete revulsion and estrangement from their parents Interestingly one of the interviewees was serving a prison sentence for embezzlement at the time of the interview Another was basically a neo NaziI don t think the stories which the author told in the first person were as revealing and educational as they could have been It might have been better if the author hadn t been a Jew who had lost relatives in the Holocaust I think that colored his perception and put the interviewees on the defensive

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Born Guilty Children of Nazi Families

Hey really know about their parents' wartime activities and how did they find out More deeply how did they react as suspicions hardened into certain knowledge with rejection understanding or confusion And how will they transmit this knowledge to their own childrenPeter Sichrovsky a distinguished Austrian journalist whose widely acclaimed Strangers in Their Own Land sensitively. A profoundly depressive book As one of the children concludes I will do things differently without being different That was Egon son of a Nazi doctor at Dachau He didn t mean it in an enlightened way He meant that he and his new doctor colleagues would put the most cherished principles into practice properly After all The system failed not in its ideas but in its execution The hatred of the children for their parents was shocking chilling Given that the author interviewer is Jewish I wondered how performative the displays of loathing were and I also wondered at the start if the transcripts had been edited scrupulously honestly In the post script however the author showed he had thought out the moral issue fairly in my view But of course it isn t simply a uestion of just what s moral In Austria where people found it easier to play the victim the book was met with silence We weren t the ones and it s not our problem Saying that helps the Austrians slough off the moral self judgement It s an attitude that can t be stamped Made in Germany and left at that it s everywhere this avoidance of moral uestions and judgements As for the possibly performative hatred of the children for their parents there was also a lot of vicious hatred between the Nazi parents and that was just as chilling and revealing and unlikely to have been performativeAlthough many of the children claimed to be progressive the ones who commented on the 1967 war in Israel all mentioned the swagger of the Israeli victors as though it were a bad thing as if the Israelis facing annihilation yet again had just won a brutal war of aggression against French peasants Either the children still had the anti Jewish prejudices of their parents generation or they were swinging into marching order with those of their own generation who as one of them put it liked to ally themselves with pet victims from as far away as possible Chile Palestine so that they wouldn t actually have to meet them and discover that left wing radicals and other victims might not be entirely worthy paragons after all That kind of observation dating back to the 1960s showed that the virtue signalling of our own era is not new And so what isIf the author could have explained at least a few of the many roots of Nazism it would have been easier to see that the movement was not an eruption of bestiality out of nothingness out of nihilism out of a black hole He could have mentioned but didn t that the roots go back centuries The psychoanalysis such as it was by the children shouldn t have stopped just a few generations back It should have gone back through the Prussian school system Protestant and it should have examined Bavarian history Catholic to the same depth until the two strands of Germanness met up again at the common ancestor I think historians generally feel that that was the Thirty Years War At no other point were the pressures on the nation as traumatic and disruptive of what had gone before While the Norman Invasion was a similar turning point for the English the slaughter and dispossession affected mostly the Anglo Saxon landowning classes the slaughter of the Thirty Years War in Germany burned the roofs of the poorest peasant huts down to the sheep dung and rat bones After it the Germans developed a need for order at any cost Even after the living memory of the war itself died out folklore and tradition kept the psychological responses to the violence alive Then too the earlier Mongol invasions had left their marks as well especially in Prussia now Poland and left their lessons particularly in the efficiency of mass murder in pacifying a landscape Always in Europe the enemy comes from the east Or from the Northmen Or from across the Rhine Other men are the enemy It was never climate change back then And so the apparent instinct to murder first and uickly was very close to the surfaceChildren don t learn those things about German history when they re young And so all they could do it seemed from their stories was writhe with incomprehension How could their parents be so horrible How could they lie to them and never admit they were wrong Never admit remorseThe instinct to resort uickly to violence as described by the children whose parents had beat them seemed oddly thoughtless and yet totally thoughtful too That is the parents unthinkingly passed on the traditions that had been beaten into them by thoughtful pedagogues and parents and grandparents all of whom had accepted the correctness and honorableness of the practically medical practice of beating children to teach them a lesson that would make them better people The principle came from a higher authority and that was enough There must be order Yet the authoritarian exercise of violence is never clinically neutral even when it s dished out as a prescription by a studious layman following a rule book with a set number of impersonal strokes of the cane and the obedient child ready and waiting in the prescribed position It affects the perpetrator agitates and upsets him or her and it can also give a feeling of personal power and vitality to this mere layman All those things violence and intimidation give the perpetrator may explain why so many different types took it up in a higher cause of courseAnd so an intellectual defense that invokes the higher cause springs forth to justify the violence even to the victim who learns how he or she can one day share in its pleasures Violence means strength and strength means survival is the lesson in the first schoolroom Then once the violence is justified why should it not be pursued for the betterment of all mankind And suddenly it s a life and death grappling for the throat of the rest of EuropeWas it wrong to try to batter Europe into submission Well they lost but that s it end of story Shittier bastards won blacks and Jews backed by pure material superiority in inferior tanks and guns That seems to be what was at work in the minds of most of the parents They were beaten that s all Few seemed to have asked if they deserved to have been beaten The point of a fight once it s on is to win it And that is the only point once it s on The real point though which they all mostly missed is never to have to go that far to stop before the push becomes a shove But if the push is the point the push meaning the exercise of vitality then winner take all violence all becomes inevitable and whatever slaughter happens is a side effect of the exercise of vitality It seems the only uestion the parents were asking after the war is Why did we lose They still persisted in trying to justify the violence and trying to grasp where the fight was lost As one of the parents said By 1943 we knew the war was lost and so the Jews had to die There was no political or war winning purpose in the mass murder by then which removes the murders from the realm of the politicalThe violence between the parents after the war and their beating of their children in ways that seemed to depart from pre war textbook practice also seemed derived from personal bitterness and failures How can a man educate his wife by beating her How can a wife educate her husband by letting him die of intestinal cancer in agony and humiliationThe answers are at the psychological level and that s the level the children puzzled it out at There are no politics or political parties in the book until the children go to school and have to listen to the guilt trips of the morally superior political teachers the longhaired pot smoking leftists in sweaters whose response to the psychological problem is entirely political and therefore irritatingly wrong just as it is todayFeeling these historical shadows in the background reading the accounts was a little like being strangled by a sense of the inevitability of evil that will always come along wearing every kind of human face There were both the roistering murderers who could drink gallons of beer without showing any effects and sleep with any woman how revolting to the timid Stefan whose roar couldn t compete and the other sueaky mice like Johannes father a railway official a common desk murderer who on being robbed while on vacation in Italy fell to his knees on the road and begged for mercy In between were other types but a book like this cannot get them all the selection seemed fair enough all the same If there were only one simpering blond and blue eyed murderer in lacuered SS black Hollywood would have wrapped it up a long time ago But the memories of these children suggest the crimes came on in an endless stream of personalities from the self confident and boisterous man in command father of Rudolph to the taciturn and guilt ridden father of Werner Many were never prosecuted simply because there were too many That in itself is one of the worst realities the book gets acrossAnd it s what the book leaves with me a sense of no escape from rounding a streetcorner and bumping into a murderer Caution has to creep up on a reader after such a book a deep mistrust of those who say that Nazism was a one off and that everything is great now that we have the age of authoritarian intolerance behind us As the era of the Woke shows that simply isn t true And the psychological truths behind violence and intimidation and belonging to the Brotherhood that brings order at any cost aren t going to go away eitherLike Egon the neo Nazi said we do things differently without being different

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Portrayed the lives of the children of Jewish victims living in Germany and Austria today here turns his attention to the children of the perpetrators His penetrating and often moving interviews with the sons and daughters of Nazis some famous some not convey perhaps as never before the painful struggle to accept and come to terms with the terrible burden of their parents' guil. Not very informative It s a rewriting of interviews in a first person point of view I m sure a transcript would have been useful for people interested in the subject Especially since the only transcript of a phone interview printed in this book definitely shows how the author was hostile and aggressive in his way to address the person being interviewedI read this book after seeing a play by Hannah Moscovitch called East of Berlin Most of the play can be traced back to uotes from this book So now I m disappointed at the play too